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There is a difference between spiritual life and mystical life. In spiritual life you aspires to something you want to get close to God, you want to lead a good life, you want to make a connection to your spiritual Nature, you can evolve and develop higher states of Consciousness. A mystic wants nothing. We aspire to be completely empty, to be used by God for His purpose we don’t even want Heaven or anything like that we aspire to be empty and so we are used.
I do not ask to see
I do not ask to know
I ask only to be used
- (One of the prayers of the mystic)
We know nothing but we are given what we need.
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Mystics are born they are not made. You see you have to be a little bit crazy to be a mystic, to give up everything in your life, everything that people consider precious, even your beliefs, there comes a time when even your beliefs have to go and no one would do that in their right mind. You have to have this substance in you that belongs to the soul you bring it with you into life and it starts to make you a little bit crazy and this world as you know it starts to dissolve it no longer becomes real and then its time to find a teacher to help you through this process because it’s very dangerous you can go crazy because nothing that seems to be real is real any more, because you have to be transformed so you can be used by the beloved for the sake of the beloved not for your own sake that is the difference.
This was taken from a hour long talk which can be listened to here on Youtube
I love your words in here David; I will have to come back and read and watch the video. ♥
Mysticism is not an escape from this life, it is learning how to live fully while still in this prison. “Escape,” whether you call it baqa, moksha, nirvana, or some other word, usually comes after this life for those who are enlightened. Some might say “life is hell” and, in a figurative sense, they could be right. Even the most enjoyable lives have their share of sorrows, troubles and suffering. Spiritual life, while living it, is never completely liberated from all restrictions or fluctuations; it is, however, a great deal more fulfilling. The divine life is true liberation. It is freedom from our normal sense of limits. [quoted from my e-book on comparative mysticsm]
Thank you, Ron….well said.
Rev. Dr. Susan Hamilton, Dean
Sancta Sophia Seminary
Can you please e-mail me the Saint CHarlemagne Oration
Total submission to the Divine. I love it!
I believe Jesus was/is a mystic. And in our desire/effort to be like him, we lose our ability to be a mystic and instead become spiritual, a much lower order. If we would just give in to total submission, we would actually be more like Jesus, but in our own right, thus being a mystic.
So the question is, does a mystic who is truly being themselves achieve true God-Consciousness over the spiritual person that spends a lifetime attempting to emulate someone they are not?
Hello Friend,
You have raised a great point. Is it ok if I quote from you in a future post ?
Dave
Dave,
By all means. The words I use do not belong to me anyway, they belong to ALL who is One.
BP
I would hope we would not judge between the evolved state of someone who is “spiritual” vs someone who is “mystical”. Can they, like the various outer religious expressions, be simply different paths to the same goal??
Definitely Susan, you are absolutely correct! All seekers of the Divine Truth will eventually end up knowing exactly that, THE Divine Truth. But as Llewellyn stated, mystics are not made, they are born. I maybe mis-stated my sentance and inferred that spiritualists are of a “lower” order, but rather, just different, because all of us have a different purpose, each one just as important, to fulfill while on Mother Earth. I deeply apologize if I offended you, or anyone else, with my misuse of words.